Magazine for Niederdeutsche Familienkunde
Class 41
Published of the Genealogi society, Hamburg, e.V.
Hamburg 1966

Side 107ff

The inhabitants of the island Veddel in the river Elbe around 1768

(determines to end of the 18.Jahrhunderts)

Written by Otto Tafelsky

In the manuscript of this expenditure all godfathers are mentioned for the children. Space saving forces us to omit it in the pressure. In order meanwhile readers, for their names are interested opportunity to give to determine they we the manuscript in our archives (under places) will keep.

The available work does not bring familiy trees going back far. Nevertheless it may be useful perhaps or others, if it is able to close regretted gaps with the study of such a cross section by few generations within one by the water of so naturally limited district surprisingly in the own research. Therefore also the names of the godfathers are listed as well with the data from the baptismal registers, since they are to be added to the inhabitant circle of the Veddel or neighbouring islands in the the Elbe and Marsch districts to the largest part.

When with the conclusion of the Gottorper contract of 1768 before were surrendered the islands of the river Elbe belonging to the royal-Danish office Pinneberg to the city to Hamburg, also the former noble property Veddel arrived under the territorial jurisdiction of Hamburg. The property had formed a possession, whose owner had changed several times by centuries with the Grevenhof together. In the year 1735 it had changed over into the private property of the Danish king Christian VI., it for 89000 rthlr. danish crowns of the brothers Johann George and Detlev Heinrich of a-settle had acquired. The administration lay then in the hands of a general tenant, who was responsible to the pension chamber in Copenhagen.

Before the 18. century the settlement of the island of the Elbe in Pinneberg had existed only in the on it-set property goods, which were partly property, partly lease goods. The population was very thin therefore since she consisted only of the owner and tenant families and their staff. That changed however in the course of the 18. century, when except the past predominantly operated pastoral industry to the fatten of juetischer oxen, which came into Hamburg community centres to the a slaughtering, to which increasing milk need of the large city brought the milk trade to the bloom. The "Kuhmilcher" took pastures from the owners and tenants in lease and after lease. To to the end of the 19. century hundreds of cattle feasted on the islands in the Elbe of Hamburg. The milk was brought to well sailing, pointed hole built Milchewern, which became to maintain from several Milchern together, there on that into the city and delivered to firm customers.

The increasing needs Hamburg port in the 18. century also commercial enterprises here-lured and to numerous craftsmen and day laborer work gave. So existed around 1768 a beer brewery, a vinegar brewery, a windmill, a baker's shop, some jugs and a ferry service after the city dyke and the Gr. Grasbrook over there. Also a Koehlcker is already called, which points on the vegetable growing beginning, which found its paragraph in the city, but on the Veddel and never the meaning attained the remaining of the islands in the Elbe of Hamburg, as into that far upper Elbe convenient  Marschlanden of Hamburg and the areas of Hannover Wilhelmsburg, Neuhof, Altenwerder and the south half Finkenwerders.

The property Veddel covered the islands Gr. Veddel, Kl. Veddel, Veddeler Mueggenburg, Kluetjenfeld and Grevenhof with its 12 uninhabited Werdern.

The Veddel was church cared for by that Hamburg suburb St. George, the Grevenhof however by the suburb St. Pauli (Hamburg mountain). The tenant of the Kluetjenfeldes held himself to the Stillhorner church in Wilhelmsburg. Occasionally also the church was taken in Moorfleet in requirement, where the Kaltehofe (Hove) and the Peute were given to the church.

After the transition at Hamburg the yards were administered by the kaemmerei. The jurisdiction was with the two land gentlemen (two senators) of Billwerder and Ochsenwerder.

The buildings of these islands were property of the kaemmerei; on the Gr. Veddel however 18 became in the course. Century for establishing manufacturing ones and to prosperity Milcher come already places for the building of own houses proven. In the years 1772/73 the kaemmerei sold Katen present even in its possession to private ones. The land development preferred itself on the Veddel primarily the dyke of the Elbe (northern dyke), then the Sieldeich drawing in the east from the south to the north (still today in the road course "Sieldeich" recognizably) and finally southern dyke. On all remaining islands belonging to the property the settlement was limited to the tenant farms.

The larger residential density on the Veddel is unfortunately only detectable in the kaemmerei belonging the buildings, for which inhabitant lists are present. By a not small number of inhabitants the dwelling cannot be recognized; it must be assumed the fact that these possibly under-slipped with private owners of house which then did not become on record. The Veddeler property yard did not exist at that time any longer than restaurant economics, since the lands was assigned to several tenants, their own stables and barns used. The still existing yard buildings were rented by the kaemmerei.

In the following the houses beginning with their inhabitants and the determined data, in the west of the diyke of the Elbe are specified in sequence and the dyke ring following. Subsequently, the inhabitants of the pertinent tenant farms of the other islands are made considerable. The families, whose dwelling was not, form the resolution, which are provable as inhabitants or tenants however from documents and church books.

Side 114ff

Inhabitant of the Veddel around 1768, their dwelling unknown

(alphabetically arranged)

Friedrich Grohn (Gron, Gronn, Kron)  Catharina Loinigs

Children: Anna Maria Magd. ~~ 17.XII.1766
Gottfried ~~ 12.III.1769
Cath. Sophia Martha ~~ 22.XII.1771
Magaretha ~~ 28.VIII.1774
Christian Hinrich ~~ 16.VIII.1778

The son Gottfried Grohn 6.IX.1791 Anna farm servant. Krull from "Zoehren, office Bortsholm" (Soeren, office on-board cross-beam)